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Yesterday there was a hormonal incident here in our household...
Kiwi and Tumbler have been fairly bonded for many months now and have chosen to spend much of their time together outside the cage and sometimes in. Being birds of the same size I have never had a problem with the two of them interacting. Kiwi is often feeding Tumbler and me right now but otherwise seemed mostly his normal self. Somehow Kiwi managed to bite down a bit too hard on Tumblers beak though and has punctured the outer keratin on Tumblers beak on the right side up near the nare. I made an appointment with a vet and began my internet research to determine what options are out there.
Dental enamal is a possibility if the wound is deep or needs to be prevented from getting infection so this was something i was figuring was going to be necessary. Upon taking her in to the vet the vet said that because it was so close to her nare she would not feel comfortable using enamal, plus on the good side it was not deep, just enough to crack the other keratin but due to the angle one side had lodged under the other creating the dimple.
After a quick process of dremmeling the upper piece creating a shallow depression in the side of her beak. We will return every two weeks to dremmel it smooth and allow it to grow out normally. She told me that while it would have healed had i not brought her in (obviously not an option for me) it could have just as easily cracked all the way down her beak as it grew out and created a lifetime problem.
Just a reminder that vet care is always important. And so is handling your bird in such a way that vet care can be administered quickly and efficiently. I've never been so thankful for a willing and tolerant bird. And now the fids are all allowed out only separately until this hormonal period passes. Neither Tumbler or Kiwi is happy about this separation... but I feel it is best for the health of everyone.
Maybe later i will snap some photo's of her beak if you would like to see it. Looks minor but of course anything involving a beak is serious. Thankfully she seems completely unphased by it and is not losing weight or eating less at all.
Here are the pics:
hi...
you need something?...
okay well while you have me all tied up i still got this itch above my eye, hang on a sec will ya?
oh THAT... that's what you were trying to get a pic of... (flash)
(no flash)
my poor baby...  makes me really rethink letting my fids play together... they are the same size... have never shown aggression of any sort towards each other before... i always thought of it as healthy for them to be able to interact with each other as well as people...
Canary Winged Parakeet - Kiwi (4yo)
Normal Green Cheek Conure - Tumbler (2yo)
Turquoise Green Cheek Conure - Dart (1yo)
Illiger's Macaw - Anduin (13yo)
White Winged Parakeet - Mango (6 months old)
Raised in Pennsylvania... now living in the middle of Kansas
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Wow, are you lucky she is such a good little patient!!! Fergie would have caused all kinds of drama over this accident. She chipped her beak once and did a Swan Song for days on end...I know it hurt her but she was like a little baby child and your fid is looking so normal and chin up about the whole thing. Lorek, you are so right about getting to the vet early and fast...it helps the vet get our fids fixed much better and faster. I hope all goes well the next few visits. Please keep us updated.
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i am inclined to think that it was a jealousy thing though over what i'm not sure. :( and as for being minor... i think we are all lucky because it never bled... only a sliver deeper and i believe it would have been a different story. i think you may be on to something with the beak density PP... the funny thing is, i've considered the possibility of one nipping the other eventually and i've always thought that tumbler would be able to do much more damage... she has a FAR stronger bite, but since she never bites i ruled it out... i wonder if being a wider style of beak makes it spongier in the middle then? I don't know... i just know i feel bad for her (though that leads to oodles of cuddling... my benefit i think, not hers). She really acts like nothing happened and will let me touch it/turn her head/move her beak all without issue. She didn't "LIKE" the dremmel but she didn't try to bite either.
Canary Winged Parakeet - Kiwi (4yo)
Normal Green Cheek Conure - Tumbler (2yo)
Turquoise Green Cheek Conure - Dart (1yo)
Illiger's Macaw - Anduin (13yo)
White Winged Parakeet - Mango (6 months old)
Raised in Pennsylvania... now living in the middle of Kansas
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ouch that last picture really shows it, poor baby it looks so painful. Hope he is doing better everyday.
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Boy, that last picture really shows the injury. Hope all heals well over time with the proper care. Ouch!
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