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Good Psittacine
      
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| With a constant buzz of the "pet stores are bad" topic online I decided it would be nice to single out the good/bad stores we have recently (last three months) seen. You will need to post what state the store is in, where it is located, the overall experience you had and the date you visited. Example: State: Map Quest Location: Date: Why I liked/disliked the store: If you like you can also include photos, video or voice recordings. And with that said, lets single them out!
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Good Psittacine
      
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| State: Florida Map Quest Location: Mr. WeeBees Date: 12/17/2007 Why I disliked the store: When you first walk into the store everything looks well kept and very nice. The conures have toys, the lizards/baby birds have warm lamps and pelleted food and there is even a large flight full of budgies, tiels, quakers, lovebirds, pigeons, doves and a patigonian conure, all the birds in the aviary are retired breeders and not for sale. The entry to the store is clean, the colorful carpet is vacuumed and the walls are decorated with plastic plants and colorful odes to parrots. You walk into a "hallway" with three sun conures, rats and two baby tiels each in thier own ten gallon glass tanks, smack dab in the middle of the carpeted hall. Each tank is clean, everyone is using sanitary water bottles, proper food and perches (for the birds that can perch). As you move on you see a small five foot shelf stuffed with various brands of parrot pellets, seed treats hang just above it. Next to the shelf a kind woman manages sales behind a desk and makes sure you're finding everything. Not bad at all right? So far a very nice store filled with happy birds. As you move further onward past the lady at the desk into a larger room you find fish, a room with about 50 ten gallon tanks against the walls, all are clean, I see no ill fish. The supplies for the aquatics are placed on two parallel racks, in the center. Is this all the is to the store? Not by far. You notice a double door leading outside infront of you, begging to be opened. You open it, as you shield your eyes from the bright light you step out onto a large cemented area. You notice two wooden shelters to your left, a father and son begin to come out of the farthest one stating how smelly small mammals can be. You enter and in there you see rabbits and possibly some guenie pigs in wooden hutches. You exit to visit the other building, you are curious because you hear large birds screeching. On the building a sign reads "Breeding Facility: Under Construction", you enter. As you take your first two steps in you notice how dark it is, pitch black in fact. But you know the birds are here, they begin to talk to you. As your eyes take ten seconds to adjust you comment "All you guys would be much happier in the sun and clean air". Directly in front of you a line of three cages appear, in the front a bolivian scarlet macaw, behind him a blue and gold, and behind him a mobrella cockatoo. To your left a moullican 'too, to your right a moullican 'too. A pair of red lored amazons, one plucked, is to your north east and the smaller birds (quaker,tiel,budgie,lovvie,jenday,sun,p'lets) are up against the wall. The floor is still cement, and this time not clean. Reptiles are cooped up in the right corner, all look clean. But the birds? Oh no. The scarlet, B&G and mobrella are stuck in 24" x 5' tall cages, all rusty and nothing to do. They can't even open thier wings. The scarlet has one low,low perch. It really isn't even a perch, he can't stand on it. Both the scarlet and b&g are babies. The mobrella reminds you of a rescue bird you cared for this year and you wonder if the bird is one of his clutch mates, or if this is the bird itself. All the birds are very nice, but the macaws are somewhat shy. The two moullicans have slightly larger cages, but only one bird has a good perch. The other bird has one "happy links" toy he plays with on his old/fecal filled cage bottom.The amazon pair are in similar conditions, very small perches, no tray bottom to catch droppings and no toys. All the bird's food and water dishes are on the cage bottom. The small breeder birds are mostly in 6" x 6" black cages with chunky nest boxes sticking out. All cages need a good scrubbing. All birds are on a seed diet. When you are done with sympathies for the birds you feel you've seen enough and head out. But one unseen room remains, and it's filled with birds. When you first entered the store you failed to notice a room to your right. Now that you see it you enter. In the right side of the room, reptiles. In the left, psittacines. Stuck in a 8x8 cage, you pay particular attention to a blue headed pionus, his feathers look very scruffy and dry, he is puffed and shaking all over, swaying as if ready to keel over dead any moment. Directly next to him a young dutch blue peach faced lovebird, for a lovvie stuck in a cage all day long it is very sweet and curious. All birds have food on the bottom of the cage and no toys. And with that I had had my fill. I left the beautifully decorated hallway, out though the falsely welcoming doors... ((as a last note I noticed a pair of conures, a jenday and sun breeding pair. The three conures in the front where labeled "$299 sun conures". I asked the woman if these birds where the offspring of the sun/jenday pair, she said "yes they are", I then made the point "Well arn't they SUNDAY CONURES then?" you know what she said??? *pause* "well, yes they ARE sunday conures". I replied with "Ahh...." Wow, false advertising.))
____________________________________________  Want to go to a parrot park over the summer?www.parrotjungle.com
Saving one bird may not change the world, But it'll change the world for that one bird.
Come and leave a post on Polly's blog!
....That's OK,birds like nuts!
Polly won 2nd place in the Cutest Bird Competition Giza won 3rd place in the Cutest Bird Competition Abbey won 2nd place in the Wettest Bird Competition
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| Hi Kitty! I am sure you really don't need me to spell out my opinion of our local pet stores here and how I have viewed thier care of the animals and especially the birds in the store.. I am also not sure how to fit into your format, I think you are better with the computer then I!! However, the stores we have here are Petsmart and Pets Supplies Plus ( major minus ) and are located in upstate NY (utica area) I am still battling with them and have been put on major ignore now as I cannot get a response one way or the other.... the Petsmart store too is not selling any birds right now due to the outbreak and I am not sure if any birds are infected or not.. in that store though they have the birds well housed as well as the other animals and everything is always spotless... my opinion though is that they house way to many parakeets in one cage and I did get my two from that store.. just to get a couple out anyway... ( wild little buggers though!) Its the Pets supplies Plus store I have major issues with and I will figure out a way to get this store to stop selling the large parrots.. Good for you for going on with this and I know I really appreciate it, I don't think anything will ever come of this unless we try to band together to solve a problem that goes onto a corporate level... sorry if I ranted on again... I will step down from the soap box now and I do hope there are some good stores out there that can put the bad ones out of business..!! 
Proud Parront of 4 Fids : 6 QH's and 2 Dogs Kiwi = quaker parrot Mango = mobrella cockatoo Blue+Diego = parakeets
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KitoandTupis Dad here,
We live in the Buffalo, NY area and the PetSmart here also has all it's birds in quarentine! Hmmm? Yes, way too many Budgies too a cage. We also have Pets Supplies Plus & Pet Co. All 3 never hardly sell any Parrots and just rotate them from store to store. Pathetic! Why do they even try to sell them? A local breeder or a reputable locally owned pet shop is the way to go...
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1. Senegal Parrot(Kito) 1. Pacific Parrotlet(Tupi)
2. Peach Faced Lovebirds(Tarzan & Jane)
1. Cockatiel(Miah) 1. Green Cheeked Conure(Chico)
1. Lineolated Parakeet(Chile) 1. Bourke's Parakeet(Aussie)
1. Black Capped Conure(Julio) 1. Budgerigar(Anni)
2. Indian Ring Necked Parakeets(Taj & Mahal)
1. Scarlet Chested Parakeet(Sydney)
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Fully Fledged
      
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General Area: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Stores: Various PetSmart and one Petcetera in Missisauga and PJs Pet Store..
(sorry I don't feel like formatting, I thought it would be HTML but it's BBC)
Why I didn't like the stores:
PetSmart: They think they know a lot about birds. They have a little thing they called "PNP" which stands for procedures and policies. Do you know that they can't have more than 3 bird toys in the cage at any given time? (but they really encourage less, because they want you to be able to see the bird at first glance) The foods they have them on are not adequate enough, it is pelleted, but it's not really the best. The cages are lined with pine pellets. And when birds exhale, they are still inhaling at the same time, so ingesting and breathing in pine dust is not exactly the greatest thing for a little bird's lungs. Mmmm. it's getting late so I can't think of any other thing to complain about there's more! They have these rolling bins that they put their birds in.. It's a big cubicle, with mini tanks and one large tank in the front for larger birds. Normally they have have any food and I once saw a Timneh Grey who was trying to eat the pine pellets because he had no food. Grey's are neurotic, so I really wouldn't want to promote any bad behaviours. They do not put the food up off the ground, they put it on the ground.. etc.. They also have in different stores wall tanks. And the genius who designed them is not a genius at all. They are very small and not suitable for anything, and when you try to take the water dish out, there is nothing stopping the little birds to get out. My friend once saw a pionus that you could probably stick a pen in his nostrils (usually a lack of vitamin A).
Petcetera: All birds are on a seed diet, even the lovebirds and the cockatiels.. Oh well, it's not that bad, I guess. There is not a single toy in the cage, and the finches had plucked each other and I don't think it was hormonal. I give the manager amazing credit for trying to be responsive when I was complaining about the state of their birds
PJs Pet Store: They actually keep their birds in fairly good condition. They don't have a variety of toys though and their wall cages are a little unsuitable.
Blah.. Don't get me started on the condition of their fish and their small animals and not to mention the poor reptiles.
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